Pseudo – “Christians”


 

Hirelings didn’t enter the leadership of the church by the Holy of Holies…the True Door, but instead, climbed over or dug their way under a wall. 

And from the very second they made their way into the pasture they have been hard pressed to indoctrinate the weak and feeble minds of the naive into thinking that the “church” wasn’t meant for those who follow Jesus and truly want to worship Him, but instead is meant for the non-believing and seeker of some strange message that tickles their ears.

These hirelings have slowly planted their yeast into an unleavened flock, infecting it with a warped sentimentality that has spread through the masses of God’s children and destroyed the very essence of God’s leadership.  Therefore, many of those who were genuine in their faith and trust of Jesus as LORD, were pressed into converting into a new way of thinking or forced into leaving the church they thought was safe and secure.

These so-called “leaders” of the church are not willing to stand up for the absolute truth of scripture, but instead malign it with their own hypocrisy and beliefs that tickle the ears of the masses but are far from the truth of God’s inspired word.  “Church” leaders have all but isolated God’s true worshipers into small groups that get ushered into a little corner of the building with the twisted plan of eventually leading them out of the pasture entirely.

Therefore, many of those who were forced out because they would not conform to the new-age doctrines and false beliefs, were left to wander in a barren wilderness searching for food.  A wilderness that has brought doubt, fear, confusion, worry and unbelief to many.

These who have been shunned by the false worshipers and systematically extradited from their places of worship, still believe and trust in God to spare them of their plight.  They believe that He will provide for them and care for their wounded hearts, and they trust in the scriptures to be their source of nourishment and the reminder that God never fails…even in the midst of impossibilities. 

Those scriptures, have never changed.  The message that leads to life, has not changed.  The meaning of the gospel, has not changed.  However, what has changed are the people who sit in the pews and the depth of their belief.

But just like the people of Israel, while wandering in the desert, they begin to grumble and complain.  They forget the promises of God and they wonder if they should return to the places they were driven out of, to conform with pathetic teachings of pseudo-christians who’s words are sweet as honey, but who’s motives are as bitter as wormwood.  

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The church has never been perfect.  In years past the message that was preached was a message that reminded people of that very thing, but it was also to remind them that God the Father makes everyone who believes in Jesus a new creation, and for that reason they have every right to call themselves “perfect” because of His redemptive work on the cross.  Because of regeneration of the heart and soul through the blood of Jesus.

Those people who heard that message understood that they had been placed in a pasture of loving grace and truth and surrounded themselves with others of the same mind…the mind of Christ Jesus.   I know, because I used to associate with them on a weekly basis.  We not only met Sunday mornings for a time of biblical lessons, prayer and worship, but we also gathered on Sunday evenings and Wednesday nights for a time of praise and quiet prayer directed with our hearts and minds towards a loving, compassionate God.

We would spend hours in prayer…trusting and knowing that God would hear our every word because of our RELATIONSHIP with His Son, Jesus. 

Today, that practice would be considered a “waste of time” or “boring”.

Prayer takes a back seat to the musicals, dramas and video presentations of today’s “church”.  God and Jesus are mentioned as being a part of the entertainment, but it’s more about keeping the pew sitter interested or making it fun and entertaining so they don’t get bored, and that leads me to ask…in all that huff and fluff, where does that leave room for God the Father to show up and LEAD His people?         

The fact that prayer is shoved into a couple of minutes before the offering or a few seconds after the sermon, tells me everything I need to know about where the treasure of today’s “church” really is. 

Oh..and on a personal note…let me tell you…if you think talking or communicating with the God of all creation is boring or a waste of time, then you don’t know the same God I know.

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Today…that lack of prayer and true worship by MANY who sit in the pews of “churches” has proven to me that their faith and trust in a God to provide for their needs completely, is absolute lip service.

They don’t seek Him with humble hearts, they don’t have long, deep, meaningful prayers with the One who has told them He would never fail them, always be their rock and would always hear them from Heaven and answer their prayers.

The reason behind their lack of humility and prayer is ultimately because of the person who stands behind the pulpit.  The messages and teachings are a “new and improved” ideology that has been thrust into the forefront of “churches”, leading masses to their demise down a broad road of despair and misery that has been disguised and concealed by the prince of the air as a message of hope and freedom.

The messages that are preached in most churches seems very kind and down right biblical…”love your neighbor”, “love your spouse”, “love, love, love”, “grace, grace, grace”, “don’t judge”, “don’t be a pharisee” …

but the underlying message is false in meaning, false in doctrine and false in theology; and the more the message is preached, the more it falls in line with its originator.  A master of lies and deceit, murder and mayhem…

That originator, is Satan.

He has slowly scattered weeds among the crop and infiltrated the field that was intended to bring a harvest of 30, 60 or 100 fold to the farmer who planted it, but the weeds have robbed the true crop of water and nutrients until it has accomplished its ultimate goal…to kill and destroy the crop so the Farmer has nothing left to harvest.

This is why many believers in God begin to have doubts.  It’s why they are eventually led into phases that ultimately steer them into questioning their faith and relationship with God.  It leads to hurts and pains, making mountains out of molehills, getting angry with God for not answering prayer, asking with wrong motives, isolation from people and studying scripture and then complete unbelief.  And it all begins with a simple message being sown in today’s “church” by pseudo-christians who are being led by their earthly father who seeks to destroy everything that God has made. 

Satan is a devious creature and after thousands and thousands of years…(“billions and billions” for you evolutionists)…he knows exactly what to say and how to say it to persuade people into doing his biding and fulfilling his plans, so he infiltrates the “church” and puts his own workers in leadership positions. 

They water down the messages just enough to make them sound biblical, replace prayer with announcements, videos and dramas and direct the lyrics of songs to point at the feelings of the singer instead of directing them at God. 

Subtle? 

   …   yep.

Pathetic?

    … extremely!

Am I finished?

  … probably not!

 

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99 thoughts on “Pseudo – “Christians”

  1. Do Christians ever think how convenient it is that the biblical stories fit nicely into your religion or all the religions in fact? For a start it is a convenient story for God to claim you are born a sinner and he had to sacrifice his son for your sins thousands of years ago making you all grateful and beholden to him. (Anyway he was supposed to come back to life so we should be off the hook) The story about Noah’s Ark and drowning everyone in the world and the other stories about destroying the Amalekite cities with all the sinners in one foul swoop will have the obvious effect of making people too frightened to sin because they know how powerful God is and he could do the same to them are also very strong and convenient God fearing events.

    These events are punctuated with a convenient 12 commandments etched in stone from heaven written precisely for all the people to obey along with the promotion of the heaven and hell concept after death really drive home the point of not having a choice. Therefore you have to obey the word of God and worship him or face the consequences of hell and Satan because seven thousand years ago with no evolution or scientific explanations this environment of fear was convenient and ideal to get the populous to follow God.

    Most of the dramatic events in the bible show Gods ultimate power. Of course as much as he kills and condemns sinners he will show undying love to the faithful followers. This ideal is more than just convenient but the cream of convenience is the reward in heaven of eternal life. This was a master stroke as with many earlier gods over time because nobody is going to come back from the dead and expose the truth about heaven and hell. Eternal life is a concept that we all would love to experience on earth, but here is the offer for eternal life in somewhere called heaven and even with the conditions for compliance this likely had massive appeal when life expectancies on earth were lucky to get to 50 years of age but today this would still be a draw card for some.

    Another convenient accidental modern day aspect for Christians is that many bible passages are written in such a way that they can be interpreted into more than one meaning. Maybe this is a result of the many re-writings in the many languages it has had over centuries and the meanings have become diluted or they were originally suited for the times of the writers and not for today.

    The other convenience and one that has been in play since the first god was invented is that humans can convince themselves of being able to talk to gods, spirits, devils, make believe friends or ghosts. We all have voices in our head that we often confer with as another person and depending on the persons beliefs sometimes they become so meaningful they can appear visual and audible and often attributed to a god. This phenomenon is explained by neuropsychologists that one is actually being confronted with one’s self.

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    • Shields…you bring up some interesting observations, however, I’ve heard them before and it’s nothing new.

      thank you for providing your viewpoint, but I choose to believe the Bible as God’s written word and a history of God’s redemptive work.

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    • How absolutely bewitched you are with progressive propaganda that seeks to explain the truth by making it a fairy tale. Well the fairy tale is evolution. First of all, how did everything get here? Did it magically appear because nothing exploded into something and became everything? The something was driven by unknowable and unprovable forces to coalesce into order, purpose, complexity, and symbiosis and by spontaneous generation we have life! God created all things explains creation. Chaos has never created anything but more chaos.

      Progressive propaganda has twisted reality in your mind so that the amazing veracity of the Bible becomes just a fairy tale to you. You instead prefer the pointless aimless meanderings of modern man and his psychology to explain everything. By the which branch of psychology was promoting the vain imagination of a “scientific mind” since there are hundreds.

      Your pursuit of progressive propaganda to the exclusion of fact makes you easily misled. Can you explain all of the evil that is extant throughout the world operating from base desires to murderous rage? What about gossip? What about slander? What about idolatry that leads people to murder others? Can you explain sexual perversion, drunkenness, drug abuse? What about taking advantage of others for your own profit? What about governments that abuse their citizens? What about governments that murder their citizens? What about abortion, pornography, homosexuality, etc? You don’t have any explanation for these evidences of sin all around us, but you decide to call the truth a fairy tale. Gee aren’t you so wise?

      What were the Ten Commandments given to Moses by God? They were to worship the true living God for benefit and blessing because false gods lead to death and destruction. They were to honor God and take time to rest and appreciate Him and all that He has done. They were to honor and obey your parents, not to murder, not to commit adultery, not to steal, not to bear false witness against others, not to covet the belongings or blessings of others. Our society did well when we embrace these commandments to order our lives. By the way most of Western societies laws were based upon these commandments until progressives stared twisting everything. Now in our country we have chaos and confusion and eroding liberty thanks to progressives like you who reject the truth and embrace the lie.

      God is sovereign He does as He pleases and doesn’t need anyone’s approval or okay before He does anything. If it was left to progressives like you then Jesus Christ never would have come to this earth to save mankind from sin and the judgment of sin that requires eternal damnation in hell fire. When you arrive in hell you will bewail all of the foolish progressive propaganda that you have embraced and tried to propagate. It would be for your eternal blessing to repent of your sin and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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      • Proof, where is your proof? I can point you to more proof of evolution than your bible or any of the non-existent evidence can about Adam and Eve.

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        • Really? Can you? There isn’t any, none for evolution. You see you progressive atheistic types keep bumping up against the whole problem of life. Where did it come from and how did it start?
          Molecules of nitrogen don’t just react with carbon, and molecules of hydrogen and oxygen to form other molecules that are bases, sugars and phosphates. If you know anything about chemistry, nitrogen is highly inert. Then those molecules would have to react to form the backbone and structure of DNA. What drove that and what granted the arrangement of the bases the ability to produce information for the functioning and heredity of all cells on this planet? To say that this immense library of information happened accidentally by non-directed random forces is to stretch the limits of credulity. Anyone who has any knowledge of the complexity of life and believes it arose from random chaotic forces is seriously deceived. Here is a quote from George Wald a Nobel laureate. He was much like you, but with much more knowledge and much more frank.

          When it comes to the origin of life on this earth, there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation (evolution). There is not third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved 100 years ago, but that leads us only to one other conclusion: that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds (personal reasons); therefore, we choose to believe the impossible: that life arose spontaneously by chance.

          Can’t happen, didn’t happen, won’t happen, but fools who deny the existence of God because they love their sin and hate eternal life choose to reject the evidence of the Creator in Creation and their consciences.

          So the appearance of life on this planet is one huge problem for you atheistic progressive types, but there is also the problem of the fossil record. You say problem? Why yes, problem.

          Darwin believed there would be huge numbers of transitional fossils within the fossil record to prove evolution, but the truth is there aren’t any.

          Darwin predicted, “The number of intermediate and transitional links between all living ad extinct species must have been inconceivably great.”

          This is what Dr. Stephen J. Gould, professor of geology and paleontology at Harvard confessed:

          All paleontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way
          of intermediate forms; transitions between major groups are characteristically abrupt.

          The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.

          So the just so stories are just so untrue. They can’t even imagine what they would look like which should be a serious clue that they don’t and cannot exist.

          The former senior paleontologist of the British Museum of Natural History, which houses the largest fossil collection in the world had this to say:

          I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book (Evolution). If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would have certainly have included them….Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils…I will lay it on the line–there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.

          So if the experts say they don’t have any evidence for the appearance of life on this planet nor for transitions between animal groups then who are you to contradict them? There is no evidence for evolution, period!

          Now as for Adam and Eve, since the Bible is so remarkably accurate on its historical record, as in rulers, people groups, cities, time etc, and is also so remarkably accurate regarding the description of physical scientific phenomena, well before it was discovered by science, and since Jesus Christ who is God the Son of God declared the existence of Adam and Eve, I would surmise that the fact of their existence is much more provable than that figment of your overactive progressive atheistic imagination, evolution.

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        • Adam and Eve are real? Don’t make me laugh. One created from dust and the other from a spare rib, what a funny joke, and you call evolution into doubt….. you know nothing about it and you are the joke, please stick to reading your scriptures, warping the words of eminent evolutionists is a desperate attack on the people you hate.

          Dr. Stephen J. Gould, professor of geology and palaeontology at Harvard was a Neo-Darwinist

          Neo-Darwinist definition from Dictionary.com meaning the theory of evolution as expounded by later students of Charles Darwin, especially Weismann, holding that natural selection accounts for evolution and denying the inheritance of acquired characters. Any modern theory of evolution holding that species evolve by natural selection acting on genetic variation.

          And the comments Gould said about evolution were controversial when he was alive but he did not say anything that can be interpreted that creation by God was the answer, he was too intelligent for that. You are using smoke and mirrors.

          Colin Patterson the former senior Palaeontologist of the British Museum of Natural History you mentioned revisits his famous question about evolution and this is what he said “I therefore believe I was mistaken in thinking that I knew something about molecular evolution,” he writes. “Instead, I know (or have learned) something about the properties of molecular data and those properties are amongst the things that must be explained by evolutionary theory.”

          Again this man never mentions anything about Godly creation being the answer to life and never will even though his comments were controversial at the time because unlike some people he is a very smart man. If you seriously want to understand anything visit this site below but I will bet you will defend creation until you die even if the evidence is hitting you between the eyes.

          http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_50

          At the heart of evolutionary theory is the basic idea that life has existed for billions of years and has changed over time. Overwhelming evidence supports this fact. Scientists continue to argue about details of evolution, but the question of whether life has a long history or not was answered in the affirmative at least two centuries ago. The history of living things is documented through multiple lines of evidence that converge to tell the story of life through time.

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        • You can’t answer the absence of transitional fossil forms in the fossil record nor did you nor can you account for life spontaneously arising accidentally out of nothing. You are just blowing smoke to try to hide the emptiness of the evolutionists fairy tales.

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        • In the case of Adam and Eve, God is their Creator and He created them out of the materials He chose. A Creator makes oh so much more sense that life arising out of nothing by an accident and becoming more and more complex through forces somehow driving, against the second law of thermodynamics, the addition of information to the genome. Now if you are aware of the genome and what scientists have to say about it, that doesn’t happen. There are mutations, yes, but they are either neutral or destructive. And if there were these changes through the DNA, then there would have to be multiplied millions of transitional fossils in the fossil record, as Patterson said, concurring with Gould, there are none. The lack of transitional fossils in the record was such a problem the Gould, along with Eldredge, came up with punctuated equilibrium. Really? A lizard gave birth to a bird? Do you know how utterly impossible that it? Think real hard about it. Evolution is nonsense and has made the proponents of it appear foolish. Here is wisdom:

          Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Hebrews 11:3

          For the most part, at least those who believe what God’s Word says know the difference between good and evil and are a positive influence in this world.

          Your posit that I misquoted Gould is much like the President of Planned Parenthood coming on media to declare that they have never harvested and sold the body parts of aborted babies, and then that the videos were edited. They are proven liars!

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  2. Reblogged this on Lessons Learned and commented:
    And here we have the righteous indignation towards the logical conclusion of Sola Scriptura. I have commented elsewhere on the watering down of theological truths, but not with this kind of dissonance. With no basis except his own interpretation of Scripture, the author’s righteous and entirely correct critique falls flat. His authority is based on the same authority as his opponents, making him just another voice in the demos of “Biblical” Christians.

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    • “With no basis except his own interpretation of Scripture, the author’s righteous and entirely correct critique falls flat.” — really? …really??? LOL!

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        • but I have to wonder if your critique of this post would be the same as that of Titus, Paul or Peter if you would have been alive back in the day they wrote their words. 😉

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        • They spoke with an authority neither you nor I posses. Singular indeed and chief among all the gifts of the Spirit is that of the Apostolic missive.

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        • You’re welcome. To be honest, I thought your critique was admirable. I just found it arbitrary. Why are you more correct than your opponents? They can probably quote just as if not more Scripture passages as you,but what makes you right? Hence the authority issue.

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  3. The subterfuge is that one of satan’s devices is to persuade people that he doesn’t exist so he can then continue to lead them astray into greater and greater evil. The world is in gross declination while “Christianity” muddles about rejecting the truth of the Scriptures and the salvation given by God through His Son Jesus Christ. Satan is preparing the way for the one world religious and governmental systems. He is the one behind the antichrist, and those who reject his existence are preys for his deception. God’s Word makes clear that satan is real and he is the enemy of God, but not equal to, and he is the one who leads the world astray.

    19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one. 1 John 5:19

    1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sin, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience. Ephesians 2:1-2

    11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestles against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in heavenly places. Ephesians 6:11-12

    7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4:7

    8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 9 Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. 1 Peter 5:8-9

    Well, the grosser aspect of sin got your attention, but what about the finer detail that afflicts each and every person? What about laziness, selfishness, self-centeredness, covetousness, rudeness, unkindness, meanness, gossip, foolishness, evil speaking, railing, self-righteousness, sexual immorality, vain imaginations, idolatry, rebelliousness, lust, suppression of the truth, etc? How does one explain all of the wickedness that nips at the heels of every fallen child of Adam? Turn on any electronic device for video or audio giving evidence of these sinful failings of all. The psychology that you refer to stands mute in the face of the overwhelming evidence of the fallenness of mankind.

    I don’t know you, but I do know that you reject the witness that God has given to us in the Scriptures about this fallen world system and why those who are religiously lost follow the foolishness of man. The flock is blind being led by blind shepherds and falls into the ditch of reckless religion that ruins all who follow it. If you do see neurosis it is in those who reject the truth of the Word of God and replace it with the false musings of mankind, which is something that you also did by rejecting the revelation of the Scriptures regarding sin and satan. To do so makes it impossible for you to give reasons for why there is evil within the heart of mankind and throughout the world. God’s Word perfectly delineates the evil of our world and the individual.

    God sent His Son Jesus Christ into this world to redeem those who put their trust in Him. He died upon the cross and rose again from the dead that all who put their faith in Jesus Christ can be forgiven of their sins, have victory over sin, be delivered from the power of satan and brought into the power of God and given eternal life. The New Testament is the witness of God regarding His Son Jesus Christ, what He has done for us, and the import of His work on our behalf. God bless us.

    15 “So I said, ‘Who are Your, Lord?’ and He said, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. 16 But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. 17 I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, 18 to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’ 19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. Acts 26:15-21

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    • ‘God’s Word perfectly delineates the evil of our world and the individual.’

      God’s word.
      perfectly.
      delineates.
      the evil.
      of our world.
      AND.
      the individual.

      This is so well said, and pretty much incontrovertible. Apart from the fall of man, there is no satisfactory answer to sin (which you listed quite well) and death. Yea, death, that’s a big one……………

      But truly, the devil is the father of lies.

      Excellent Eliza

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  4. Scientific advancements are possibly beyond your comprehension or you have not realised you have made a statement that degrades your intelligence and forgotten that you are sitting behind an advanced technological computer that is the product of the scientific advancement you condemn and use to write such rubbish.

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    • I’m not disparaging the many physical improvements that technology has brought to us, it is absolutely amazing, and I am a beneficiary of it. However, the personal computer doesn’t alter the sinful nature of mankind, it only gives greater freedom in expressing that evil nature. There are numerous examples of this fact throughout different news reports and the examples abound throughout so many websites and blogs. People are still sinners and technological advancement cannot change that fact.

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      • Eliza, You obviously don’t recognise the good before concentrating on the evil nature people possess. Many of these people you condemn only disagree with you and your ideology but If you really want to do something about evil people you should be concentrating your condemnation on the organisations like Islamic State and the Westboro Baptist Church people because these type of people set out to destroy peoples lives and quite literally are evil. Quite a contrast don’t you think to judging computer technology as advancing sinful nature by allowing people like me to express my evil nature.

        The evil concept, Satan, the devil, demons, Lucifer and antichrist that you go on about are only words and names generated and designed by man to cause fear amongst the people and it appears to have worked in your world. As with any so called good gods in history they all come with the equivalent evil gods just like the Viking Gods Loki and Hel, and I understand the Greeks had over 40 underworld gods and goddesses, the Romans had Greek versions they called Pluto and Proserpine etc.

        Before you condemn ancient people and their gods by holding your God up as the divine one it may be worth thinking about the fact that Roman Emperor Constantine was responsible for accepting the Christian God and this is why you are a Christian today. If he had decided to wipe Christianity out of the Roman Empire as he was able to do you could have been worshiping Jupiter and of course if you had been born anywhere else who knows what god you would be praying to.

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        • We are always brought back to the place of how? How did this universe come into existence? How did this world come into existence? How did this life come into existence? Evolution’s just so answers are empty and void of any rationality.

          We also come to the question of why? Why do people sin? Why is there death? Why was the body of Christ (the church) established at a point in time? Why is there this book that bears witness to a historical event so life altering for those who believe? Why would God send His Son to redeem a world of lost sinners?

          Then the question becomes what? What shall I do since I have met Jesus Christ? What shall I do with the truth of the Scriptures? What shall I do to glorify Christ?

          If we ask questions without the filter of sinful rebellion, we are brought to the truth of the Scriptures that does explain all that we see. God bless you.

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        • Eliza you asked “How did this universe come into existence? How did this world come into existence? How did this life come into existence?” I am glad to direct you to the facts regarding these questions.

          These scientific and logical answers are found in detail online, however the big bang theory has basically had confirmation of this event with the discovery of gravitational waves, and the theory of evolution is supported by so many observations and confirming experiments that scientists are confident that the basic components of the theory will not be overturned by new evidence.

          You also ask a whole lot of other questions that you obviously claim to know the answers of by suggesting that if we ask questions without the filter of sinful rebellion, we are brought to the truth of the Scriptures that does explain all that we see.

          Using God and scripture as an explanation for everything you want to know is a simplistic answer without any serious thought and investigation and this has been used by humans as an answer for explaining what was not understood since the cave man when they knew nothing much more complicated than the wheel.

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        • Thank you ColorStorm. God has blessed us through His Son Jesus Christ, hasn’t He. Now may He bless us with godly desire to honor and glorify Him only always. Amen?

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        • Eliza,

          If you really had studied evolution with a free mind you would not be so blind and so ignorant to believe ridiculous statements such as these: ” the evolutionists have nothing that supports their anti-Christ, anti-biblical ravings except their febrile imaginations. Rather than follow the science where it leads, they will do all they can to suppress the truth, just as we are told in Romans 1:18-21. They reject the truth because they are sinners deluded by their foolish hatred of God and refusal to worship, thank and glorify Him as God.”

          I am just glad that you don’t have a gun.

          I will leave you to your delusion.

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        • Thank you:) But unfortunately, evolutionists do have guns and they have mass murdered over 100 million people. This is where the lie of evolution becomes so dangerous. If we are not made in the image of God then our life is of no more value then the life of any other creature (radical environmentalists anyone?) and our lives are only important inasmuch as they serve the purpose of the greater good (end of life murder anyone?) or they are not an inconvenience to another human being (pre-born murder anyone?). Evolutionists who spread their foolish and wicked propaganda are responsible for so much evil that has entered this world. This is what my Glorious Lord and Savior Jesus Christ said, the Creator of all, the Judge of all:

          6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offenses come!”

          Unless you repent, I sure wouldn’t want to be in your shoes, you are in for a lot of eternal torment along with your buddy Darwin who preceded you to his place of judgment and eternal torment.

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        • Do you seriously believe what you wrote or are you just having me on? I don’t know how serious you are because this is complete rubbish. ” Evolutionists have mass murdered 100 million people and this is where the lie of evolution becomes so dangerous”…. Really? Where do you get such twisted information and what church do you belong to? From what you write I would say you hate a lot of people and are a member of a small cult or fringe church because I know ordinary and normal church people do not believe in your ideology.

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        • Hey try to remember history please. Communists, which is a regime based upon atheistic principles with evolution the undergirding of this bankrupt political system mass murdered upwards of a 100 million people last century. This is something the liberal types all too easily forget as they push their stupid agenda upon the rest of us sensible people.

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        • It is common knowledge that most governments have accepted evolutionary theory with some communist regimes using this knowledge within their political, social and economic systems but it is not a viable argument and completely unfounded to suggest atheism, Darwinism and evolution is responsible for communists murdering millions of people.

          Communism is a political system of dictatorship ruled through impunity by elimination of private property and a totalitarian system of government and was often inspired by unstable leaders. The intellectual tenets of Marxism that was the most bloodiest were inspired by two German philosophers: Karl Marx (a Jew) and Friedrich Engels, not Charles Darwin.

          Charles Darwin was not a violent man; he was a brilliant leading scientist of his day who was a deeply religious man before he discovered the true age of the earth, and atheists are not always evolutionists as you assume and not any more violent than Christians are.

          I suppose you have never heard of deaths committed during wars and suppression of society by Christian and other religions in Europe such as the Catholic Inquisition and Thirty Years War; however we can both posture over who killed the most people or under what circumstances the deaths occurred but it is irrelevant today in the context of our modern free western world.

          I really struggle to understand how you can label and categorise people into beliefs and political types and personally condemn them for all the problems in the world.

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        • Evolution denies a Creator, disputes the Bible. Darwin was a man with a desire to overthrow the knowledge of God. He was greatly influenced by his grandfather, who was a member of the Midlands Enlightenment group, who helped to further the ideas of evolutionary biology. After Darwin’s time on the Beagle, he said this of the Bible and faith in Jesus Christ:

          The Old Tesatment, from its manifestly false history of the earth, was no more to be trusted than the sacred books of the Hindus, or the beliefs of any barbarian. The New Testament is a damnable doctrine. I can hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true.

          Hardly the words of one who was deeply religious. He was waiting for an excuse and he found a flimsy one in the dogma that was circulating in his day, and the obvious evidence of adaptation of the species, which is something all together different than evolution. By the way, the construct used to postulate long ages of the earth, uniformitarianism, has since been realized by scientists to inadequately explain the topological features of the earth and many of these features must be explained by catastrophism.

          Darwin came up with a hypothesis based upon conjecture and a modicum of knowledge because he hated the Creator, see quote above. He was not a brilliant scientist. As has been attested by evolutionists, it is an historical science, in other words it tries to explain history and cannot be proven. Darwin surmised that the fossil record would vindicate his evolutionary conjecture, but it hasn’t. It is barren of transitional forms, of which there should be multiplied millions. As attested by Colin Patterson who was the head of the British Museum of Natural History, and a leading paleontologist of his day, there are no transitional fossils, and he knew what he was talking about because that museum has the largest trove of fossils in the world.

          You are the one who accused me of being dangerous. I wanted to point out to you that denying God and His Word has grievous consequences, which is what we see with evolution. The atheistic notion was bolstered by evolution and yes the men who held to this belief used it to bolster their atheistic communistic beliefs and murdered untold numbers of individuals. My grandfather’s village in the Ukraine was almost completely destroyed by the communists, and then the Nazis finished the job. Ideas based upon fallacy always have catastrophic consequences as we see in our country.

          Yes, members of the Christian religion, especially the Catholics have murdered and tortured others, as have all those from false religious systems, maybe there are exceptions. Catholics are not true followers of Christ and they do not adhere to the Scriptures. The Church of England, was formed by a king, not the King and so was also used to attack and oppress genuine believers, along with others.

          I hold to the truth of the Scriptures which makes me enlightened by the Word of God through faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That leads me to deny myself and love my enemy, otherwise, why bother saying anything rational at all to you, since you have only attacked and attacked. Oh wait, that is the tactic of liberals. Attack anyone who has the audacity to speak the truth to shut them up. Sorry it doesn’t work with me. I will the more proclaim the truth. You should be ashamed of supporting gross unbelievers who have only brought misery and death to this world. That’s what liberals do, they forget history and support the lie rather than the truth and therefore catapult their societies into disgruntled unrest and complete destruction.

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        • Darwin was not driven by a desire to overthrow the knowledge of God or because he hated the Creator. Those comments you quoted do not use the word “hate” or “overthrow” he was only emphasising his loss of faith. There is quite a big difference between rivalry between different religions and a man who used the sciences to progress his understanding of the world and what he found resulted in him not believing in God anymore.

          Darwin was considered a persistent man who lacked any outstanding intellectual abilities but had better than normal observational skills and a better than average ability to put together a credible scientific argument. In fact in Malaysia, a young specimen collector called Alfred Russel Wallace sent Darwin a letter indicating his thoughts on evolution and natural selection, this letter evidently gave Darwin the motivational kick he required to write up the research he had been carrying out for 20 years. If Darwin had not been first in 1858 to write his paper it would not have been long before some other had taken Darwin’s thunder. The geneticist Steve Jones said ‘He had prevaricated for 20 years and would have done so for another 20 if he hadn’t realised someone else was on the trail.’

          What you say regarding the age of the earth may have some merit; nevertheless, there is substantial evidence that the Earth and the other bodies of the Solar System are 4.5-4.6 billion years old and that the Milky Way Galaxy and the Universe are older still. The age of the Universe can be estimated from the velocity and distance of galaxies as the universe expands.

          There is a letter from Colin Patterson who’s name you quote and who was still working at the British museum and asked directly about his views by Lionel Theunissen at http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/patterson.html to read more about this and you will soon realise what you say is only a creationist wish.

          I did not say you were dangerous; however you are correct that I implied this with my tongue in cheek suggestion regarding a gun, however I think your world view is fundamentally misguided and your accusations against everyone else ridiculous. Granted, communism has been a terrible murdering political system, however you cannot condemn evolutionists for this. It is like blaming Toyota the car manufacturers for their vehicle running over someone and killing them rather than the driver of the vehicle and blaming the first person for writing a book about sexual issues for all the sex crimes on the planet.

          You condemn me for attacking you, but you have literally attacked everybody who does not believe in God exactly as you do even the major religions. I have nothing to be ashamed about by being an atheist or unbeliever and I do not class myself as any left or right political supporter and I definitely don’t support gross unbelievers who cause misery and death as you imply. By the way you are correct non-evolutionary atheists do believe in a powerful creator such as an alien type of life form and many just don’t believe strongly in anything at all such as the belief we are born with, but the main point is they do not believe in any god.

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        • Darwin contradicted what God’s Word says in Genesis and throughout the Bible, where God is given the glory for creating all things, thus calling God a liar and refusing to humble himself before the revelation in Creation of a great and wise Creator. Darwin was definitely influenced by the enlightenment thought of his day, as attested to the fact that he gave credit to numerous people in his first edition of Origins. He came forward with his book after 20 years at the prodding of others so that he would get first credit. He had fear of the reverence given to God during his time frame,(which was under attack because of higher criticism out of Germany the previous century) but he hated God because of the death of his daughter at the age of 10. Darwin rejected the idea that many of his relatives would spend eternity in hell, including his God denying grandfather Erasmus who espoused biological evolution. Darwin refused to accept the truth of the Scriptures, and oh by the way, wasn’t evolution just a really handy way of denying the need for God.

          I read what you posted, and again, evolution is just so many just so stories. Patterson conceded that there is no way to directly link one fossil with another as far as ancestry is concerned. Well, wasn’t that the linchpin upon which Darwin placed his hopes? There are no transitional fossil forms only fossils that evolutionists assign as being a transitional form based upon their very active imaginations. In a biology class that I took on my way to a MS in chemistry, the section on evolution was full of such things as this: “let’s just imagine”, “now we can imagine”, “if we picture it like this”etc. Evolution is a theory that has become dogma to those who reject God; evolution is not hard science and neither can it be proven! There are a tremendous amount of evidences that disprove evolution, evidences that Darwin did not have at his disposal when he came up with this theory. Do you really think that the intricacies of the cell just magically arose mysteriously out of random disorder and chaos? If you do, I know a man that has a bridge that he wants to sell you; my faith in Christ prevents me from taking advantage of you:)

          So evolutionists, who have checked their brains at the door, would rather believe in a powerful alien, (one preferably that they don’t have to answer to) than Almighty God? Go figure! Oh wait, that is the natural bent of all mankind, and that is what drives this lie of evolution, the normal, abnormal drive of man to deny the existence of his Creator.

          Again, my favorite evolutionist to quote, George Wald:

          When it comes to the origin of life on this earth, there are only two possibilities: creation or spontaneous generation (evolution). There is no third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved 100 years ago, but that leads us only to one other conclusion: that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds (personal reasons); therefore, we choose to believe the impossible: that life arose spontaneously by chance.

          That sums it up. What he is in effect saying is this: I like my sin and I don’t want to answer to anyone (even though upon death all do) therefore I am going to believe whatever I choose to believe in order to give me comfort while I sin. That is it!

          My point, which you have really failed to address, about ideas having consequences was supported by anecdotal evidence: atheistic communism (they all murdered their people and still do, it doesn’t matter who the leader is), abortion, euthanasia, end of life for the elderly (I am only using the terms that our enemies the liberals use to make it palatable for the sheep), homosexual marriage (if animals do it why not people since really we are only glorified animals), and the general break down of our society which is accelerating because of the attack upon the Scriptures and the Creator (our society was fundamentally a just society because we had a certain fear of God and respect for the Bible which has since been eroded by the lie of evolution). I have given you all of these examples which find their origins in the lie of evolution and you cannot make a defense against this assertion. You can only attack, which is what you have done, although once I pointed it out you didn’t do it in your latest response.

          As far as the age of the universe, again it is vain conjecture by those who have an agenda which is to deny that God is our Creator and that we are answerable to Him. Wouldn’t you prefer to bow your knee to Him in this life rather than bow it in eternal judgment and damnation? Jesus Christ came so that you can have your sins forgiven. All you have to do is believe the testimony given to us in the Bible, repent of your sin and receive Him as your Lord and Savior. God’s love is also extended even to one such as you.

          I exposed the lie of the age of the universe in this post. God bless you.

          https://holdingforthhisword.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/how-old/

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        • Eliza, I am sorry but you have just rambled on with complete rubbish that makes little sense. I believe you do not qualify as capable of answering any logical arguments with sensible reasoning because you are indoctrinated beyond the level of reason by your ideology.

          You also not only misunderstand the scientific alternatives to your world view but you lack credibility when you fabricate your own responses to fit an ideology that is permanently locked into black or white mode that does not allow for reasonable or intelligent discussion on any of these issues.

          Your belief in a young earth and the literal word written in the bible have been twisted by you to suit your world view so that they take on political connotations that are just too far into fantasy and imagination to allow rational thought or reasonable assessment.

          It cannot be a rational person who has condemned an individual and a group of people for the politically motivated bloodshed in the real world because they simply have a different world view to your misguided self-centred ideology.

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        • Of course since I did reasonably respond with fact you can’t handle it but must try to discredit my cogent arguments. Your slam just gives credence that your fallacious argument is weak. I know what I believe is true. You on the other hand have only vain speculation. You are the one who refuses to see that an empty assertion regarding origins is adversely affecting humanity and our country. Discussion with the closed minded, such as yourself, is pointless. I hope God in His mercy shows you the truth.

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        • “I know what I believe is true” I am totally convinced by your argument, please send me a bible and your black book of God haters.

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        • Stop believing in fairy tales and I just might think about it. You aren’t interested in the truth, and refuse to believe it even if it was right in front of you, oh, because it is. Creation bears witness to God and you instead attribute the wonder and the glory that we see all around us to non-directed random forces acting without purpose or some superhuman alien who seeded this planet and just wants you to play nice, (where nice is whatever you decide it is). Neither of these vain assumptions can be proven, but you believe them because then you can sin without having to answer to God, or so you think.

          There are many reasons to believe the Bible: It bears witness throughout that it is the Word of God, there are multiple fulfilled prophecies recorded throughout the Bible (Psalm 22 gives exact detailed information about the crucifixion of Christ, and Isaiah 53 gives detailed information about His trial and burial), it does not sugar coat the human condition and bears witness to the truth about the Israelites unfaithfulness and sinfulness against God their Father (wouldn’t the Jews hide that?) and the failings of Christ’s followers (wouldn’t they exclude that from the record?), there is a supernatural harmony throughout the Bible given the fact that it was written over a period of over 1500 years by forty different authors from different continents, nations, tongues and professions and yet it is congruent throughout, the many scientific phenomena presented in the Scriptures long before the scientific community identified them (such as the hydrological cycle, etc.), the names of many historical persons in the Scriptures, the prophesies about Cyrus and Greece way before they existed (Isaiah and Daniel), the many geographical names in the Scriptures that we still use today, the many miracles recorded in the Scriptures (if this book is from God then we would expect to see God do things that are outside of the everyday ordinary), the existence of the nation of Israel throughout history and now re-established in their land as a nation, the Person and Work of Jesus Christ, the most sublime Person in the history of the world (who would come up with this Man who confronted His people with the truth and allowed Himself to be persecuted and murdered by crucifixion and then rose again from the dead to give eternal life to whomever would believe), the existence of the church from after the time that Christ ascended to now (the evidence of martyrdom in the early years after Christ’s ascension and the presence of Christians in the catacombs during the reign of the Caesars), the conversion of Paul from a persecutor of the church to one who was willing to die for the church, the letters of Paul written with brilliance and supernatural clarity, the fact that we see prophecy being fulfilled today with the accelerating movements for the establishment of a one world religious system, a one world governmental system and the growing desire to be led by a “messiah” type of global leader etc.

          There is no other book upon the planet that states thus says the Lord and then it is accomplished. There are multiplied millions whose lives have been positively impacted by the Bible and the preaching of the gospel. Humanitarian efforts have been established based upon those who know and love God and His creation, following what the Bible says;

          “10 Therefore as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.” Galatians 6:10

          I met Christ in my early 20’s and He changed me from a blaspheming, sinning atheist, to His beloved child glorying in His love for me and driven by a godly desire to do what is good. Through His mercy and grace I have drawn closer to Him and strive to love Him and others. I will bear witness to Christ and His glorious truth because I know the wonder of His love and the blessedness of eternal life, my sins are forgiven and I have no fear of eternal judgment. I hope that you and any who read this realize that God is good, loving, and forgiving and desires that all sinners repent of their sins and place their faith in Jesus Christ. God bless you.

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        • “you believe them because then you can sin without having to answer to God, or so you think.”

          Absolute and complete and utter rubbish, I could not care less as I do not need a dammed god or want a god or acknowledge a god or even care about any god anywhere on any planet, whether it is your god or another sad indoctrinated persons god and their sole reason for living.

          One thing this blog has taught me is that I definitely would not want to end up like you. The truth is your religious sect is on the fringe and makes up about 1 or 2% of the population because the other believers also reject your ridiculous claims. Seriously Eliza you are a prisoner of your own making, and unfortunately you will die a sad old lady even though you pretend to be happily consumed by your ideology.

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        • You know nothing about me, sorry your predictions are false. Yes, God has led me to believe His Word the Bible through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. Numbers don’t matter, what matters is knowing the One who created all things and is going to bring this present order to an end and set up His kingdom for eternity. I’m so sorry that you won’t be there. Your place will be the place of eternal suffering unless you repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ.

          Let me just point out to you that I am sure that what you said about me was also said about my Savior and Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles. I am in good company. Oh by the way, Jesus Christ rose from the dead and ascended into heaven where He is until He returns with His redeemed ones, those like me, who believe what He has said as recorded for us in the Bible by His apostles who too are with Him in heaven. You, on the other hand are not in good company, because God has said through His Son, beware when all men speak well of you.

          Hmmm, that brings to mind Bill Cosby, everyone thought well of him, but unfortunately their confidence was misplaced, now wasn’t it. That is what is going to happen to you. You have your confidence placed in the wrong source and in the end you will suffer, to my sorrow.

          One other thing, just because there are many people declaring that the sky is yellow doesn’t make it so. The reality is that the sky is blue. False teachers, false christians, liberal religionists, are all on the broad way that leads to destruction, along with those who willfully refuse to respond to the witness of God in Creation. Well, God is not willing that any should perish but that all should be brought to repentant faith in His Son Jesus Christ. That’s why I put up with your flimsy ridicule that is seriously pointless and made because you can’t counter with a cogent counter argument, of course. As if the truth can be countered with the lie.

          13 Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:13-14

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        • As you believe every passage within the bible is God’s word, it would be interesting to know what your views are on the following issues that are featured within your good book.

          Slavery, bashing babies against rocks, eating your own children, death of homosexuals, women’s equality to men, the creation of women for company and to service men, women who do not have children will go to hell, the stoning of disobedient children, wearing of clothes intended for the opposite sex, burning prostitutes alive, selling daughters into slavery, cutting of a woman’s hand, just to mention a few.

          I understand I have cherry picked some of the bad bits but I do acknowledge the bible also has good bits as you have been quoting some of them, but you cannot only believe the good and ignore the bad.

          I only mentioned these issues because if these were taken literally by you as you believe the bible should be then we should be treating people like yourself as possibly dangerous to our society. After all you have claimed “evolutionists do have guns and they have mass murdered over 100 million people.” And “who spread their foolish and wicked propaganda are responsible for so much evil that has entered this world.” Considering those comments, if you had the chance would you would put all the atheists and homosexuals in a pit and stone them?

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        • God’s Word, the Bible, is a record of God’s Creation, His calling out a people for Himself through the prophet Abraham, His dealings with His children, the nation of Israel, but most importantly His promise to send us a Savior and the historical record and prophetic promise and explanation of His Son coming for us written in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. Within that record are the actual historical accounts of the events that God wanted to preserve for warning and instruction. There is much of the history recorded in the Scriptures that is contrary to God’s will, but it illustrates the wickedness of mankind, even those who were called to be God’s people, the nation of Israel. God gave the law to His people, Israel, because they were to be a holy nation of people living righteously with faith in their God. However, the Bible gives the record of the fact that the large majority failed. As Paul declared in the New Testament, the law could never make us right before God, but it was a tutor to lead us to God, as sinners realize their inability to keep the law. We see God’s warning to the Israelites through His swift judgment of rebellion, but we also see His long suffering exhortation to His people to turn from their sin and turn to Him. So, again, as Paul said in Romans we see both the severity and the mercy of God enacted towards Israel and ultimately, all of mankind.

          The law dealt harshly with those who disobeyed it, but even then there was given the means of making amends and being forgiven for certain trespasses. Don’t you find it interesting that Jesus wouldn’t condemn the woman caught in adultery, although He came to fulfill the law and the prophets, but told her to go and sin no more. The harshness of the law displays the seriousness of sin and the fact that God is holy and is of purer eyes than to behold sin. And yet, He sent His Son to bear the burden of our sin when He died upon the cross taking the just judgment that we deserve and procuring for us salvation from God’s wrath against sinners and the enslavement of sin.

          The Law was given to the nation of Israel, Jesus came to fulfill the law and the promises made by the prophets regarding Himself. The Jews were to be a special people, holy and pure, yet they couldn’t because the law shows the sinfulness of sin and that nothing other than the death of Jesus Christ on the cross and His resurrection from the dead, faith in the gospel, can set the sinners free from sin.

          So some of the things you mentioned were a historical account of what happened, others were the musings of believers, some you mischaracterized, and some were the commandments of the law given by God to Moses for His people Israel. You failed to mention the heinous conduct of the nations that surrounded Israel, and also the depraved acts of the different tribes of the nation of Israel. There is much that is just plain ugly. But that is the nature of sin and we have seen it throughout the history of mankind.

          Believers in Jesus Christ, will not judge and condemn sinners, that is God’s prerogative. So no I wouldn’t do any of those things that you mentioned even though I will be persecuted by the atheists and the homosexuals for my faith. I will however, pray for their conversion and share the gospel with them. Isn’t that the example that Jesus left for us? Even though, we will suffer from the attack of unbelievers, God is keeping account and will judge those who refuse to repent and will bring His just wrath to bear upon those who live ungodly lives and speak harsh ungodly things about Christ and His Beloved Bride.

          14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Jude 1:14-15

          3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed. 2 Thessalonians 1:3-10

          So you have to choice to believe and receive the Savior and Lord Jesus Christ by believing that He died upon the cross for your sins and rose again from the dead for you, so then have your sins are forgiven and have eternal life, or you can go on in your rebellion against God and suffer the eternal consequences. I pray that God has mercy on your soul. God bless you.

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        • You say: “There is much of the history recorded in the Scriptures that is contrary to God’s will, but it illustrates the wickedness of mankind.”

          What exactly is it that is contrary to God’s will? I thought the Bible was God’s word as you have said so it is difficult to understand why was God telling Israel to go and slaughter men and women and why God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son, Isaac, on Mount Moriah just to mention a couple?

          I have read the excuses used for the violence recorded in both testaments and it appears if any excuse can be found to justify this violence it will be used no matter how absurd it is.

          You say: “Believers in Jesus Christ, will not judge and condemn sinners, that is God’s prerogative.”
          and then you go on to say: “I will be persecuted by the atheists and the homosexuals for my faith.” I understand from what you say here is that you will not judge homosexuals….but that is not true, all religious people judge them and therefore can you blame them for persecuting you for your faith?

          As you have said there are things recorded in scriptures contrary to Gods will, therefore could the persecution against homosexuals be one of those contrary to his will, and how would you know?

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        • I would know because God condemns homosexuality in the Scriptures and actually reveals that those who desire sex with members of their sex are already judged by God. In other words, the poor homosexual already is under God’s condemnation because of his/her wicked desires. That is why we share the gospel with the lost so they may be saved from God’s just wrath and brought into His glorious kingdom. God has judged homosexuals, and all sinners already as being deserving of eternal judgment in hell fire. That include you. So, instead of arguing and going round and round you should repent of your sin and put your faith in Jesus Christ as I exhorted in my last response.

          It doesn’t matter what I say about God’s judgment upon sinners when He ruled the nation of Israel, you only want to sit as judge of God. That is something that you cannot do, because He is your judge and you will answer to Him, not the other way around.

          This drastic commandment of God given to Abraham illustrates two things, first that Abraham feared God and trusted Him explicitly. Second that God would provide the sacrifice for our sins in sending His Son Jesus Christ to die upon the cross for our sins so that our sins can be forgiven and we can have eternal life and since He is God He rose from the dead to give eternal life to all who will believe. Repent and believe. I pray that God will have mercy on you.

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        • I am a sinner redeemed through faith in Christ and declared to be righteous in His sight and His beloved child. It is true that God has judged all sinners, but He also judged the sins of all mankind upon His Son. If you will repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ then you too will become His beloved child and spend eternity with Him. This is true for any sinner no matter the nature of their sin as attested by Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 6:

          9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

          22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. Galatians 3:22

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        • You did not answer my questions in all your three recent blogs. What is it in the Bible that God does not agree with? Like I said the homosexual is already judged and condemned by you and your friends, however if God does not agree with all the writings in the Bible how do you know this is not one of them and how do you know either way? Did God therefore discriminate against certain groups of people? He must have because he was involved in murdering selected people and women were not treated as equals to men. He made man and woman you claim with freedom of choice so what did he expect? Therefore his creation was massively flawed from the beginning.

          Again I say you have judged a part of society who harms nobody yet you say it is Gods prerogative to judge, and again I say you should expect the homosexuals to also judge and condemn you, and again I say use your effort and condemnation against terrorists who really do want to ruin your day.

          You say: “This drastic commandment of God given to Abraham illustrates two things, first that Abraham feared God and trusted Him explicitly.”

          This trust is based on fear of his life. I would not trust anyone I feared, nor would I respect or want anything to do with them. I am aware from the Bible what violence he is capable of and I do judge him based on this as I or any normal person would judge the character of any man. You may claim I have cherry picked but this is exactly what you do.

          How can your God judge me when he has killed many people? He would be in prison for life if he lived today and maybe Jesus who was really God realised I need to pay with my life for my own crimes. I am not concerned he will judge me because all the earth bound evidence suggests he does not exist and I do not really care so firing multitudes of scripture at me is a waste of time because you still have not answered my questions, and I doubt you will be able to.

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        • He doesn’t agree with the sin and apostasy that is recorded in the Scriptures. He isn’t the author of sin or falsehood. You are confusing the historical record of the acts of mankind in the Bible, with the prophetic record of God’s utterances contained in the Bible. The Bible is the Word of God because He had His sovereignly chosen men write exactly what He wanted them to write, by the power of the Holy Spirit, both the historical record and the very utterances of God throughout the Scriptures. So you need to understand that God has made declarations in the Bible about sin and righteousness. In those declarations He has stated that homosexuality is an abomination. It goes against the natural use of our bodies. That should be obvious to all. If you would stop for a moment and consider that homosexual sexual acts are not natural or normal, our bodies are not made that way nor does that perverse act promote the continuance of the human race, instead of listening to all of the homosexual propaganda that has captured your mind, then we could have an intelligent discussion about this tragic ruling that has occurred in our country. For millennia marriage has rightly been between a man and a woman for obvious reasons. Homosexuality does nothing to further the peace and stability of communities or nations. It is causing harm already and will continue to cause havoc. We can see the upheaval it causes in the Genesis account of the angels of God visiting Sodom to rescue Lot from the pending fiery judgment of God upon Sodom and Gomorrah for their perversity. Archaeological digs at the site of Sodom as described in the Bible have found charred bones and melted potsherds, reflecting a fiery end for that city. This is what God says in His Word through the brother of Jesus Christ, Jude, in Jude’s letter to believers written during the first century AD:

          7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:7

          Warning sinners, whether homosexual or not, about God’s impending judgment is a loving and kind thing to do. It is akin to the doctor saying you must have this treatment in order to live. Only fools will reject the warning and continue to go down the path of destruction.

          It doesn’t matter what you believe about God, you are coming from a place of sinful unbelief and you will always say nonsensical things about God. There is a brief record, considering all of humanity throughout history, of God’s dealings with fallen sinful human beings. God sovereignly displays His severity and mercy as He chooses as a warning and as an encouragement for us to turn from our sin and believe in His Son Jesus Christ. If there wasn’t the record of Christ coming, if sinners didn’t live changed lives once they met the Savior, if this created world didn’t exist in order and purpose, if there weren’t vast records of man’s evil behavior throughout history, then maybe your lunatic ravings wouldn’t be so wild. But there are these records and you are just spitting into the wind. I pray God open’s your eyes to His truth before it is too late for you. God bless you.

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        • You say: “He doesn’t agree with the sin and apostasy that is recorded in the Scriptures. He isn’t the author of sin or falsehood.” So you are saying God did not agree with it happening but has to put up with it or did he not want the violence and sin mentioned in the Bible? Personally I cannot blame him some of the events are atrocious. Another way of looking at it is that the writers of the Bible exposed God for what he really is. That said, maybe God did not do these bad things and just maybe you think they are lies written by non-believing atheists so you ignore them.

          You say: “You are confusing the historical record of the acts of mankind in the Bible, with the prophetic record of God’s utterances contained in the Bible.” I don’t think so, most people will agree the book is mostly about Jesus\God, his life and what he said and did, and he did murder a lot of people because they were homosexuals as you said. If you agreed with his actions and just in case you are wondering this is the same as Islamic terrorists exterminating Christians and non-religious people or a gunman exterminating soldiers in their barracks because they represented their country? If you do not agree, please explain the difference?

          You say: “The Bible is the Word of God because He had His sovereignly chosen men write exactly what He wanted them to write, by the power of the Holy Spirit, both the historical record and the very utterances of God throughout the Scriptures.” This directly contradicts what you have stated above; you cannot have it both ways. This tells me he knew what was being written and therefore condoned everything that happened in the Bible, just as you have said it is the word of God.

          I have to reiterate that you can selectively believe what you like and interpret or quote to suit from the good passages within the Bible but you have to take ownership of the bad passages as well. I do not believe in God as you know but I do acknowledge there are some very good parts of the Bible and they offer security and hope in life for many people who would otherwise be unable to cope normally.

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        • You are so deceived and confused that it is difficult to have a normal back and forth with you. Your antichrist irrationality has made it difficult for you to understand the basic explanations that I gave you. I will try to simplify my answers for you.

          A historian who records history does not necessarily approve of what he writes. He does want to be accurate though.

          God’s specially chosen men filled with the Holy Spirit wrote the truth about the history that transpired as God called out for Himself His own special people, the Israelites. Even though the Jews were chosen by Him they didn’t always obey Him. He still loves them and made many provisions for them and many miracles to help them to know Him and to bring them back to following Him with a heart filled with love and obedient fear. They were not automatons just as you are not.

          You said that most people agree the Bible is about Jesus Christ, God, what He said and what He did. It is also about the people whom He called to follow Him and their response to Him. That seems to be pretty simple. Can you acknowledge that? Can you also acknowledge that they didn’t always do what He wanted them to do? God, Jesus Christ, isn’t operating in a vacuum with no interaction with the apex of His Creation, His people. So of course there will be the record of what they did, how they responded and whether or not they chose to obey and follow Him. Then of course there will be the record of what God did and said in response to their obedience or lack thereof. This culminated in God sending His Son so that all sinners who repent of their sin and put their faith in Him will be forgiven of their sins and given eternal life, becoming the beloved child of God. This record is written so that sinners can believe in Jesus Christ and believing have life in His name.

          30 And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. John 20:30-13

          You cannot have it both ways, you can’t try to contradict what I have said and then say it is true on the other hand. You also cannot say that I didn’t acknowledge what you asked about, I did, I just didn’t choose to answer every one focusing on the more important questions.

          Yes, Jesus Christ executed His just judgment upon sinners who behaved contrary to godliness and righteousness and sinned grievously against God and His holiness. Remember, I quoted what God said through His prophet Jude the half-brother of Jesus Christ, that God’s judgment upon Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of the judgment that awaits all sinners who reject the offer of forgiveness of sins and eternal life freely given to all who will repent of their sin and put their faith in Christ. I urge you to do likewise.

          What’s wrong with trusting the God of the universe to take care of me during times of difficulty and stress that every human faces? His love and kindness are much better and more effective than drugs, alcohol and the puny misguided efforts of fallen man. His record of His interactions with other people during their trials and difficulties gives me hope and security, as it does all the chosen children of God. Praise God that He has given me and all of His children good hope and comfort through the encouragement of the Scriptures. I pray that God will bless you in like manner.

          4 For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures we might have hope. Romans 15:4

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        • Okay I understood but wanted to be clear on your stance with this. I understand God was happy for what was written in the bible because the specially chosen writers or historians he selected wanted to write exactly what had happened even if God did not like some of the sinful events as they unfolded. This is absolutely clear then, that God knew of many terrible events and even ordered many of these terrible events against his own people.

          This is exactly my point. God executed people on earth because they “behaved contrary to godliness and righteousness and sinned grievously against God and His holiness” to quote you. Because he claimed to be a God or someone special is fine but to kill people because they don’t believe what you say or act in the way you demand is out of the question in my moral code and what is worse is he did not stop with one event and did not discriminate on those he murdered.

          God instructed Saul through the prophet Samuel to “go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey” (1 Samuel 15:3-4,). Other examples include the period of the Israelite conquest of Canaan in which God instructed the people to exterminate the Canaanite populations that occupied Palestine at the time.

          I do not find anything wrong with what you say “trusting the God of the universe to take care of me during times of difficulty and stress that every human faces” especially if it keeps you from drugs and alcohol but surely you do not agree with this terrible behaviour? Sure you can believe anything you like from the apologetics who find ways of justifying these types of events just as the new bibles water them down or eliminate them, but these events should be as real to you as the rest of the bible. I am not trying to fling mud in your face but I am making the point to you that there is very good justification to reject the bible and God enough without blaming Darwin, homosexuals, science, politics and all the atheists for the perceived ills of the world.

          If you do not think these events are bad enough I can send you heaps more and some of it I was unaware of and it really surprised me as an atheist so if I were you I would go somewhere and read the entire bible (with all the passages intact) and absorb the whole thing rather than the bits that you like that make you feel good and want to throw at atheists and homosexuals. You may after balancing your thoughts with the good and the bad at least understand that you do not hold the moral high ground over anybody else due to the biblical scriptures and realise you have no right to persecute any individual or group of people as you believe you can.

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        • My dear man, I have read the Bible through numerous times, have you? Realize that the lost persecute those who are saved which is why most to God’s judgments have fallen upon sinful mankind. Numerous believers have been martyred throughout the ages and are continuing to be killed today. Unless these sinners repent they can expect nothing but the just judgment of God. I have to leave the door open for repentance because Paul at one time as Saul persecuted the church of God dragging believers to jail and to their deaths. Here is what God says about those who shed the blood of His beloved children:

          9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed….3 Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became as blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died. 4 Then the third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters saying: “You are righteous, O Lord, The One who is and who was and who is to be, Because You have judged these things. 6 For they shed the blood of saints and prophets, And You have given them blood to drink. For it is their due.” Revelation 6:9-11; 16:3-6

          I guess you don’t follow the news about all the Christians who are being murdered in the Middle East because they claim to follow Jesus and refuse to turn to Islam. May God have mercy on your soul. God bless you.

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        • After the Amalekites attacked the Jews you say “God swore that He would utterly blot out Amalek, who attacked His chosen people.” OK it was a time of war or a tribal type of disagreement, but to order the death of women, infants, children and animals has absolutely no justification and obviously you have fooled yourself into accepting this murder and all the others in the bible as being fully justifiable.

          You write: “The truth is all will be judged by what they have done whether good or evil. Since God is Creator and has established right and wrong through His commandments, He also is the One who determines the appropriate judgment based upon His holiness and the egregiousness of the sinful acts of sinners. If you were perfect then you would have nothing to worry about. But you aren’t are you?”

          Sure no doubt in your view I have sinned but those infants and children God wanted murdered had not sinned. Seems to me to be a double standard such as “do as I say not as I do,” but of course you will claim the innocent will go straight to heaven. Even if that concept were true the question must be why did this merciless God rob these children of their chance to live a normal life on earth?

          You need not bother answering by pasting scripture amongst your own few words as an explanation because it is clear enough to anyone to understand why you will continue to persecute homosexuals, atheists, scientists and everyone else who disagrees with your ideology. You will have no answers apart from ambiguous quoted biblical scriptures in the name of an imperfect and cruel God to justify your condoning of the immoral acts and this in turn explains the intolerance and disgust you show to certain people. As I have said you are indoctrinated and radicalised by an ancient ideology well beyond sensible thought and logical arguments.

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        • If God doesn’t exist why bother? If you want to sin in the manner that God has forbidden why be concerned with what I think? Why would you care about my commitment to the truth of the Scriptures? Because I share that truth with the few who agree with me? Homosexuals are the ones who are persecuting Christians. Atheists are the ones who have and are persecuting Christians. All we are saying is repent and believe in God’s Son Jesus Christ before you spend eternity in hell.

          Who are you to judge the acts of God? These people were possessed of an inherent animosity towards the Israelites and hatred of God. How do you know those children would live a normal life upon this earth? Look at Isis and what they are doing with the children. Children under the age of ten are murdering believers. This bitter animosity towards God and His children was and is irrational and all consuming. Take your head out of the sand man and see the evil that is all around perpetrated by evil people! God’s judgment of these people should warn you that God will hold all accountable for their actions no matter what. God’s judgment of these people proves the seriousness of sin that it infects all from an early age and makes them enemies of Him and His people. Stand warned, you yourself are a sinner and in dire need of salvation. You prove it by your hostility to the truth, and pretending to stand as judge over God and His righteous acts. Repent!

          I shared the Scripture that I typed in because God’s Word is powerful and of course you hate it because you are of your father the devil. He hates Scripture because it is Word of God. Just like the devil, you try to twist and use the Scriptures against His beloved, but I rebuked you with Scripture just like Jesus did with the devil. Your nefarious charges against God are driven by the devil and your own sin nature. Atheists are just as entangled with the devil as Satanists, and you have proven it by assuming to judge God and twisting the Scripture which you do not know in order to do so. Your sensibility is based upon gross naivety and ignorance. You are willfully ignorant of God, His Word, and the nature of people. How could I have an intelligent back and forth with such a person? I proved from the Word of God all of the points I wanted to make and you proved that you are a deceived sinner. That’s it! I am done! I will not reply again.

          Don’t think that you have proven anything, you haven’t, except that you are deceived by your sin nature and the prince of the power of the air. Here’s some Scripture for you to ponder, hopefully it will help:

          12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.
          13 But evil men and imposters will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:12-17

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        • The only comment that makes any sense and I will respond to is this: “These people were possessed of an inherent animosity towards the Israelites and hatred of God. How do you know those children would live a normal life upon this earth? Look at Isis and what they are doing with the children. Children under the age of ten are murdering believers. This bitter animosity towards God and His children was and is irrational and all consuming. Take your head out of the sand man and see the evil that is all around perpetrated by evil people!”

          It is human nature and quite logical given that humans have a large range of emotions that the whole population will never collectively agree or believe the same things or follow the same god and it is human nature and arguably child abuse that parents will indoctrinate their children into their personal ideologies as soon as they are able to walk.

          This indoctrination happens within all religions, Christians included not just Islam and obviously these children have no reason to think what they are doing is wrong but do only what they believe their religion demands of them and believe they are pleasing their god exactly like you want to please your god.

          At such young ages indoctrinated children including 10 year olds still have a resilient and enquiring young mind and would have a good chance to recover and lead normal lives even though they may be scarred psychologically. I do not know exactly how good the results would be because people react differently, nevertheless in humanitarian terms most of the world would give these children the best care and help that can possibly be offered, therefore I have no other choice but to believe you and your Lord’s decision to deny children the chance of normal lives and the command to butcher them and their families as documented in the bible was nothing less than a psychopathic act.

          I expect if you had children maybe you would realise how isolated your view is. Can you not see it is you who has your head in the sand because you are irrational and unable to see any good in any people who do not agree with your ideology? It could be said you are as evil as the ones you blame for the problems of the world and maybe you are in need of some help.

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        • Sure, of course, and these same psychologists and humanitarians further traumatize and abuse children by sexualizing them at an earlier and earlier age, and this same perverted liberal community confuses children with the idea that their gender has nothing to do with their physical attributes but with how they are feeling. No, you and your ilk are of the same persuasion as the people of ISIS, just indoctrinate the children, even if they are not your own, with a perverted and murderous mindset. That is what you and your humanitarians are doing with those who are of the Christian faith, indoctrinating the children to hate Christ and hate His own so when the time comes they will also lead with the persecution and accelerated murder of believers.

          You are cherry picking from the Scriptures because of your arrogance and unbelief led of the devil. But where is your outrage and anger over the brutal butchering of believers by ISIS, whole families? This is the here and now and you quibble about something that took place centuries ago. You are extremely unbalanced! What about the murder of babies, children, and adults by all the communist regimes the last century? Where is your outrage over that? What about the murder of unborn children who will never have an opportunity to even breathe their first breath, where is your outrage over that? What about the disease that has been spread by homosexuals and those who are sexually permissive throughout Africa so that children are denied their parents, where is your outrage over that? What about all of the murder and war perpetrated by the Muslims so that whole people groups are displaced and again children are denied the safety and security of a home to grow up in, where is your outrage over that? Where is your outrage over the kidnapping and sexual brutality perpetrated against young girls so that they can not have a normal life, where is your outrage over that? Where is your outrage over children being raised by same sex couples so they are denied having a mother and a father, which is known to be the best for their overall psychological health and development?
          You think that you are so wise but you are a fool! God’s just judgment against a people who hated Him and His people has nothing whatsoever to do with the evil, vile, corrupted, hateful attack of mankind against one another. You have plenty to be outraged about in the here and now. Why don’t you exercise some discernment and deal with reality, it would do you well.
          Christians are the humanitarians who are helping children and families after they have been devastated by these vile attacks. It has been Christians who have opened their lives and homes to the lost boys of Sudan that have given them hope. It has been believers who have helped women keep their babies and not sacrifice them on the altar of convenience, who have insured these babies draw their first breath. Christians are the ones who will help anyone out of a life of sexual depravity so they can live normal lives.
          You have no idea about me, but I can see right through you. You have an ideology that promotes what is contrary to the well-being of humans and then decry those who try to stand up for what is right and good. You and your kind are the danger to the people. By the way, you are in the minority. The vast numbers across the world oppose sexual perversion as a national agenda. There are just a few, mostly white affluent nations that are on the cusp of destruction that want to promote such evil. Many within these nations oppose the wickedness, but the drive by the big four (government, media, education, business) to make it normal silences many. No, you and your ilk are promoting evil and will surely bring about the destruction and corruption of our nation and these other nations that have stupidly embraced your wicked ideology, of sexual perversion. You are wicked and condemned.

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        • Liza this is a tirade and a personal vendetta against me and the masses of people you hate. I see you now have added psychologists, humanitarian’s government, media, education, and business to your huge list of evil people but you seem to have unwittingly forgotten many of these people may be Christians.

          Do you expect people to carry on like you do and follow God’s lead because he says these people are evil and are our enemies? I don’t agree with everything that happens in this world and I am outraged with many of those things that take place such as ISIS and I condemn them for the killing of everyone including the Christians, however the debate at the time was about the violent deaths within the bible but now you have considered this as only quibble because it is something that took place centuries ago, therefore with that reasoning the whole bible must be just quibble and that I would agree with.

          I also have certain views about abortion, homosexuality, domestic violence, priests who molest children, child indoctrination, politics, global warming, UFO’s and many other debatable issues however even if some of these people have acted against the law I do not think these people are responsible for the destruction and corruption of your nation or ours because many of these issues have been happening and been controversial since the evolution of man or for your benefit “since Adam was a cowboy” and we have not destroyed ourselves yet nor are we more corrupt than at any other time.

          Just for the record about 98% of the people you condemn as evil devils would be outraged over the deaths of innocent people and have never harmed a hair on a child or any human being and that includes indoctrinating young children or applying cruelty to animals and some of these same people would be Christians but would not want to be part of your extremely radicalised Christian values. Rather than promoting Christianity your condemning and discriminating diatribe about everybody who disagrees with you will drive people away and I don’t think God would be too pleased with that.

          I don’t want to wind you up more than you already are but I think most of the people on the sites you blog will realise the extent of your extremism and I should imagine many will be surprised and concerned as I am because contrary to your belief I do not hate you or wish the worst on you but I do ask you to please be very thoughtful with anything you decide to do regarding your feelings against any of these people.

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        • Okay, your response makes no sense. I answered you in order to show your hypocrisy. Would you count abortion as harming the hair on the head of a child? I would and so would many others who read these blogs. So your assumption that the majority wouldn’t do that is just flat out wrong. There have been over 1.2 billion abortions worldwide since 1980 (and that number is conservative). Of course, many women have had multiple abortions. If you factor in the doctors, the family members, the government consultants, etc. you can see that number escalates. So your idea that most people wouldn’t hurt the hair of a child’s head is just flat out wrong.

          Back to the Amalekites. God is the Father of the nation of Israel. Any father, who is worthy of that name, will do whatever it takes to protect his children. The Amalekites were sworn enemies of the nation of Israel, proven by their unprovoked attack of the nation on their way to the promised land and then by wicked Haman’s use of governmental authority to try to annihilate the Jews during the time of the Persian Empire. Now this animosity doesn’t just reside in the breasts of the adults, but is passed down to the children at a very early age as can be seen by the Palestinians. They indoctrinate their children against the Jews from a very tender age, so that little children have an ingrained hatred of the Jews. This was the same thing that was happening with the Amalekites, and as God knows all that occurs and the thoughts and intents of every heart, He was doing His Fatherly duty by protecting His children through the annihilation of the Amalekites.

          Yes, there is indoctrination of children going on. It is happening in the state where I live. There is a move within the educational system to overthrow the God given knowledge of gender based upon physical attributes with some bogus feeling about one’s sexuality and this is starting at a very tender age, even kindergarten. Our grandchild won’t be going to public schools because of this blatant indoctrination. The children are being sexualized at a younger and younger age, and much of that sexualization focuses on just a teeny tiny portion of the population of the human race, the homosexuals. The homosexuals are not content to practice their perversion in their “closets” they want it to be celebrated. I don’t want anyone celebrating my monogamous relationship with my husband, a man, it frankly is nobodies business. They are trying to indoctrinate a whole generation that sexual perversion is okay. And do you know where that will go? Well, reports in the news include polygamy, incest between a father and his biological daughter, bestiality, etc. Can you not see how this can doing nothing but bring great harm on any society that embraces perversion?

          No, you are the one with the extremist views. You deny the existence of God that shouts from Creation and whispers to you in your conscience. You support those who are perverse to the detriment of whole societies and nations. Yes, sin has been extant since Adam and Eve fell in the Garden of Eden, that is its genesis, but the peoples who embrace the evil will always experience confusion, corruption, and chaos, this is something we see occurring in the US in spades. You should look at reality, and consider that you are not dealing very well with it, and then you should study the Scriptures with the idea of believing what God has said in His Word so that you can turn from being a curse to being a blessing.

          Yes, I will continue to oppose those who promote wickedness and I am one among many. My solution, and I hope theirs, is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ died on the cross for the sins of mankind and rose again from the dead, because He is God the Son of God, and death had no hold over Him, and any one who repents of their sins and puts their faith in Him will be forgiven of their sins and have eternal life. They will be transformed from a wicked evildoer and to saint who loves Jesus Christ, loves righteousness and loves people. Those who are truly born again through faith in Jesus Christ will share the gospel and expose evil. Anyone who says they are a Christian and doesn’t do that is a fake.

          The tactics of the far left are to intimidate, coerce, bankrupt and persecute those who will not tow the line of their evil and depraved agenda. Now whom do you want to support? One who offers you the hope of eternal life, salvation from sin and eternity in hell, or the ones who are leading you on the broad way that leads to eternal damnation? God bless you.

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        • Shields, you remind me of a very idealistic young adult who has eaten up all of the progressive propaganda given you by your parents and the religious, educational, media, and governmental elites. Unfortunately, it is just propaganda and has nothing to do with reality. If you look strictly at crime statistics then perhaps it may seem that the world is a somewhat peaceful place, but statistics of war are not included in crime statistics and so the numbers of violent attacks on innocent human beings skyrockets as one considers those killed during battles or displaced by violence and human suffering that occurs because of war. Close to 1 million people have died in this century alone due to conflicts, and that is a conservative estimate, great numbers have been displaced and enslaved. This is the nature of mankind.

          Perhaps you are aware of your own shortcomings and failures? Maybe you don’t notice them in others so much, but be assured they are there. Every person is guilty of sin of some sort. Some sin is more spectacular that others, but sin is sin and it mars the image of God in man. It debases our relationships and sends us in a direction that isn’t good. We could go around about violent statistics, but those don’t take into account the heartache and aggravation that your “normal” everyday sins beget. Sins like gossip, lying, hoarding, judging, arrogance, disobedience to parents, slandering, secretly hating, maligning, misrepresenting, distorting, rationalizing, cheating, taking advantage of the hard work of others,drunkenness, drug abuse, sexual immorality, murder, theft, etc. These sins break relationships and cause sorrow and suffering. Open your eyes and see that sin is all around. Open your eyes and look within and you will see sin dwelling there, if you are honest.

          Jesus Christ is the only One who took care of our sins, by dying on the cross so our sins can be forgiven and rising again from the dead so we can have eternal life, a life of goodness and glory to God the Father, knowing Him and living for Him by the power of the Holy Spirit as we obey His Word. I hope that you will be saved by God’s grace.

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        • I thank you for suggesting I am a young adult, however I am much closer to the other end of the scale so I have life experiences and know a little bit about what I am writing about and thank you for being concerned but I am comfortable with my level of sinning plus I do not think I want eternal life.

          You said: “Back to the Amalekites. God is the Father of the nation of Israel. Any father, who is worthy of that name, will do whatever it takes to protect his children.”

          Obviously the part we were taught in Sunday school about “all people are God’s children” is not true. You will have to face facts one day and understand that God ordered the murder of children and their parents on this occasion and it is written in the bible you follow as your book of instructions to rule your life and everyone else’s if you had your way. I can think of nothing that justifies doing similar atrocities to what ISIS does and if this had been done by anyone in the western world they are condemned by society and locked up forever as mentally deranged or executed. This could also be termed as ethnic cleansing.

          You said: “There is a move within the educational system to overthrow the God given knowledge of gender based upon physical attributes with some bogus feeling about one’s sexuality and this is starting at a very tender age, even kindergarten. Our grandchild won’t be going to public schools because of this blatant indoctrination.”

          I do not live in the USA but I can bet they are not teaching kids to become sexually active in any way but are teaching the kids to not discriminate against people including gay people and treat everyone as an equal. Do you not understand this is important, if we have rampant discrimination against colour, race, profession or sexual orientation such as your condemnation against half of our society we increase the chance for violence and hatred in the streets that could also send society into the depths of destruction?

          For any action there is a reaction, bigotry will cause a backlash, this is fundamental human behaviour and this is fuelled by people such as you. You only have to see the shooting of a black youth by a white policeman to see what can happen and we are now having demonstrations against the Muslim societies to contend with. Tolerance is the key to a harmonious society, however a certain standard of decent behaviour should be maintained and we hope this will always be enforced by the law. People are free to set their own moral standards regarding their own lives as long as it is not against the law. Many lives were lost fighting for this freedom in all our democratic countries.

          You say: “The tactics of the far left are to intimidate, coerce, bankrupt and persecute those who will not tow the line of their evil and depraved agenda. Now whom do you want to support? One who offers you the hope of eternal life, salvation from sin and eternity in hell, or the ones who are leading you on the broad way that leads to eternal damnation?”

          You must be a bit confused. You site the leftists of persecuting those people who do not toe the line, however if the country decided to vote for you and everyone followed your ideology and conformed to your biblical doctrines this also would become something like a communist or an ISIS ruling system because we would have to follow your biblical rules. You would be free to bring back stoning homosexuals and disobedient children, cutting of hands and feet or plucking out eyes of sinners, atheists can be cast into a fire to be burned and God would agree to bring back slaves and any other delights written in the bible. By the way, Darwin and Lincoln both have a birthday on 12 February.

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        • Just coincidence dear, it shouldn’t dazzle you, unless you are easily dazzled.

          What you are referring to is an theocracy. There was only one and that one was established by God between His people Israel and Himself. By the way, He will fulfill all of the promises that He made to Israel when Christ returns to rule on this earth for 1000 years. You don’t have to worry about the likes of me ruling anyone, you have to worry about the Son of God ruling with a rod of iron!

          Citizens of a country standing up for what is good and right is beneficial to the citizens of the nation. If we didn’t then all chaos would break out and there would by anarchy and pandemonium would reign. With a leftist in power in our country we see that confusion and chaos have become almost common place. The states where there is a more conservative governance are doing well and the people are prospering, and they are peaceful.

          I think that you are the one who is confused. I see laws that are being made by leftists that abridge people’s rights to exercise their religious convictions regarding homosexual marriage and then they are penalized if they don’t comply. That is the tactic of the left and it is flourishing in our country. I am sorry that you are unaware of such things.

          I have continued to make known to you, very unsuccessfully, that what you are referring as to the law given to the Jews was for that nation at that time and it was to preserve a holy people to serve a holy God. Praise God, He sent His Son Jesus Christ who saves us from our sins and gives us new natures and makes us holy in God’s sight so that we follow His commandments to love one another and to love others. That is the dispensation that we are now living under. It is a dispensation of grace and the kingdom of God within the individual so they are living according to His will by His enabling.

          Your confusion with religion and faith is understandable because much that passes for faith is merely the religion of men which distorts true faith in Christ and makes it something oppressive and unappealing. Faith in Christ is liberating and life giving. If sinners knew what glory and peace there is in knowing Christ perhaps they would repent and put their faith in Him. Unfortunately, many who profess to be Christians mar the truth of Christ through their false teaching and man made doctrines.

          You don’t know anything about what is happening in our state, and you shouldn’t make those judgments because you don’t know. Yes, they are sexualizing children at a younger and younger age. Much of it has to do with pedophilia too.

          Improper use of force against any is not good, however, those who are civilized and know how to behave will deal with issues of injustice in a manner that helps and doesn’t hurt their society. You can’t justify rioting and condemn just judgment at the same time without showing your own twisted worldview.

          Followers of Jesus Christ don’t teach that we are all children of God. God is our Creator, that is true, but to be in a relationship with God the Father means we know Him through faith in His Son Jesus Christ who gives us the right to become the children of God by believing on His name. Only those who have faith in Christ are His, all others are His enemies and are bound for hell. You may be comfortable with your level of sinning but perhaps you have a seared conscience so that you don’t really know how truly awful it is and how it begs for the just judgment of God. I pray that God in His infinite mercy will give you a tender conscience regarding your sin and will then give you the knowledge that you deserve nothing but hell, but with the knowledge will show you the glory and wonder of forgiveness of faith in Jesus Christ and His death upon the cross for your sins and His resurrection from the dead. May God have mercy upon you.

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        • Let us get something straight here. I am neither for or against abortion; however I believe there are certain medical, social and psychological reasons where this procedure may be justified. Get this fact, most women do not have an abortion, you carry on like every woman has a regular trip to the abortion clinic and to use your quote,” you would be flat out wrong”

          I tremble in my boots at the thought of God ruling us. If the bible is anything to go by it will be a cruel regime just like ISIS. Thank God there is no chance in hell of this ever happening. (Excuse the pun).

          Here is another attitude problem from God. What would you do in this situation? God orders Abraham to kill Isaac his son as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son but just as he is to cut his son’s throat God provides a goat. This supports my belief that only a sadistic God would ask a father to do such a thing and only a stupid and bad father would be willing to do it. They are both very sick men.

          You say: “Yes, they are sexualizing children at a younger and younger age. Much of it has to do with pedophilia too.”

          I think you are quite stupid if you think parents are allowing this sort of behaviour. Please Identify why you think paedophilia is being directed towards children?

          You are correct that we are not all children of God, (I checked on the web) even if you are a child because you can be murdered just like any adult sinner anyway.

          You stated: “Pity, most matured adults have given up their starry-eyed infatuation with progressive propaganda when they get hit in the head with the brick of reality. Perhaps the brick bounced off your hard head eh?”

          “Progressive propaganda” never heard of it, must be a new fad of yours, glad my head is hard enough to resist your brand of reality. Your truth and reality that is believed by about less than 40% of Christians in the USA and far less in Europe is so warped because it is so unreal and untruthful I could not even consider in a million years that it would have any benefit for a decent society with such a vindictive and unforgiving ideology.

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        • You are so purposefully stupid, but you think that you are so wise. You mischaracterize everything. That is so ludicrous. What was the statistics that I gave you, there have been 1.2 billion abortions since 1980. The woman wasn’t by herself when it happened. Many were involved with that decision and that act. I was refuting what you said about 98% of the human race wouldn’t harm the hair upon the head of a child and proved you wrong. That’s all that was. Nothing more. Your reasoning behind abortion is why abortion is legal here throughout the pregnancy. What reason isn’t there to get an abortion? Oh, you didn’t mention birth control, but that is in fact the main reason it is used and many times the woman getting the abortion is coerced by the “boyfriend” or “family members”. In China, the state coerces the abortion. Sometimes abortion is used in this country to cover up the rape of an under age girl. Abortion often times has devastating psychological affects upon the woman and of course a baby is killed. Again, your strange starry-eyed romance with progressive propaganda makes you unable to deal with reality.

          Of course the sexualizing of curriculum within the schools is leading to making children sexually aware, and accepting of homosexuality and all other types of sexual perversion. Often times this happens without the parents understanding or knowledge and in some cases parents are not even given the option to opt their children out of the section of study. Who benefits, children or adults? There is a push within this country to legalize pedophilia, oh by the way, it comes upon the heels of the legalization of homosexual marriage. Again, your perverted passionate purveying of progressive propaganda shows that you are not dealing with reality and actually an enemy of all of us who are decent, normal, godly people.

          If there is no chance of God reigning on this earth, and oh by the way, the history proves you wrong. History such as the nation of Israel, Jesus Christ, the apostles, the church, the changed lives down through the ages, etc. Then why do you even bother coming on any believers blog and berating them with your nonsense? Your agreement with the devilish tactics of the progressives and their spreading of their propaganda forces you to behave in such a nonsensical manner. Progressives hate the truth because it hinders their spreading of an ideology that ensnares and oppresses the populace so just a few are able to enjoy the bounty of the earth. Everywhere progressive ideology is in place is a backward nation or state.

          Since you are so twisted in your logic how could anyone hope to ever explain anything to you? You refuse to see the A,B,C’s of reality so how can algebra be explained to you? You are adrift in your deceit that has been laden upon you by the progressive propaganda that you so willingly embrace. It is truly sad. May the One True Living God open your eyes to the truth and bring you to repentant faith.

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        • 98% of the human race wouldn’t harm the hair upon the head of a child. Abortion was not part of my non-researched statistic that was used as a metaphor anyway as you well know but it seems to consume a lot of your overactive imagination.

          You claim: “There is a push within this country to legalize paedophilia,” Again you are on a rave or you have no laws in your part of town, what are the facts not the fantasy?

          You say: “Then why do you even bother coming on any believers blog” I can get a good idea of how indoctrinated Americans are. I doubt you are a very accurate gauge to use however and I don’t want to be rude but you are certainly one of a kind with your righteous attitude and vile attacks on so many people in our society. In fact I would like to say a lot more about your lack of respect and un-Christian like comments but I respect the blog so will not get too personal.

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        • Abortion is an evil perpetrated upon human kind, it kills babies and wounds their mothers. Then the evil Planned Parenthood sells body parts as a lucrative side business. That is the epitome of human depravity.

          Here is an article about the effort to destigmatize pedophilia in this country by certain psychologists.

          http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=7253

          Here is another article about pedophilia in the entertainment industry.

          http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=7153

          No, your intent, which I strive to counter, is to sow seeds of doubt in those who are perhaps struggling in their faith or to try to undermine those who are weak in their faith. Your work, and I won’t hold back the punches, is the work of the devil, plain and simple.
          You said at another time that 40% of Americans believe as I do. I would hope that is true so we can turn our country around from the evil direction that it is going urged on by evil people like you.
          I will warrant that you are deceived, but you are still accountable for the evil you embrace and the evil you promote and the harm that it does to others.

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        • Your point was, which I countered, that people are basically good. That is the dream of progressive elitist who paint this false picture of humanity so they can pull one over on them. No, mankind is sinful, you just have to turn on the radio, television, or go to a movie to see that. I’m not saying people are incapable of doing anything good, because that would be burying my head in the sand at the opposite extreme, what I am saying is that people do the wrong they do because they are sinners and they need a Savior who is Jesus Christ the Lord of glory who came and died upon the cross and rose from the dead so that sinners like you can have their sins forgiven and have eternal life, although you judge yourself unworthy of it. So like Paul and Barnabas, I will shake off the dust from my feet and discontinue communicating with you. I have proven the emptiness of your false profession. I will pray for you. May God grant you repentance unto life. I can pray for you because a former persecutor of the church, Saul, met Jesus Christ, and became Paul one of the greatest champions of the church to ever live. And because God transformed me, a progressive atheist who loved her sin, into a beloved child of God and servant of the King.

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        • Pity, most matured adults have given up their starry-eyed infatuation with progressive propaganda when they get hit in the head with the brick of reality. Perhaps the brick bounced off your hard head eh?

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        • Believers in Jesus Christ change the world one individual at a time through living godly lives by believing and obeying the Bible, sharing the gospel, that Jesus Christ died for our sins was buried and rose again from the dead all according to the Scriptures and praying for others. We share the love and compassion of Christ with others. We do not harangue, harass, humiliate, threaten, or beleaguer those who disagree with us, we pray and leave them to God. If you supported what was good and righteous then you wouldn’t have to resort to your vile and evil tactics to get your agenda implemented.

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        • As far as defending the Amalekites, they were a people steeped in idolatry and sexual perversion of every kind: bestiality, homosexuality, incest, adultery, etc. They were arch enemies of God’s chosen people the Jews, and I haven’t seen you mention any concern about their desire to destroy all of the Jews, men, women and children. You my dear friend are the epitome of a hypocrite!
          Of course, you wouldn’t understand my references to the truth because you are lost and steeped in your sinful hatred of God and His children.

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        • As I have said you are indoctrinated and radicalised by an ancient ideology well beyond sensible thought and logical arguments.

          I understand and can see where you are coming from now. This is the point of the spear for the persecution of believers that has, is and will be taking place. Our faith is decried as persecution. But you have lost before you have even begun. First, God will judge you more severely, unless you repent and put your faith in His Son Jesus Christ. Second, persecution of the saints adds to their numbers. In other words, the more you persecute us the greater will be the number of truly born again believers. Think about that.

          9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, say, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” Revelation 7:9-10

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        • I thought I should respond to your direct questions but first of all to quote you regarding the Jews “He still loves them and made many provisions for them and many miracles to help them to know Him and to bring them back to following Him with a heart filled with love and obedient fear.” How can love be unconditionally genuine when you are in obedient fear of someone?

          You ask: “It is also about the people whom He called to follow Him and their response to Him. That seems to be pretty simple. Can you acknowledge that?” and “Can you also acknowledge that they didn’t always do what He wanted them to do?” I agree with both questions but God and Jesus are the main focus in this book without a doubt.

          You quote: “For whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures we might have hope. Romans 15:4.”

          This quote you should take notice of because if you are truly a decent person who condemns violence and discrimination you should strive to learn from those events and not follow suit to become a better person than those who committed those crimes within the bible including some of those terrible actions by God.

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        • I can understand how from history you may fear that “Christians” will do harm to others, we have the glaring examples of what the Catholic church did through the ages, and perhaps they used the OT to justify what they did. The leadership of the Catholic church was greatly influenced by Augustine, so much so that he is called the father of the Catholic church, and one of his false teachings was that it was okay to persecute and execute those who disagree with their view of “Christian doctrine”. So knowing that ungodly influence on what many consider to be a “Christian” establishment, but it really isn’t, let’s now look at the passages that concern you.

          The Amalekites were the mortal enemies of the Jews and attacked them as they came out of Egypt on their way to Canaan. Because they did this God swore that He would utterly blot out Amalek, who attacked His chosen people. Saul, as king was given the command to fulfill this directive from God. He didn’t fulfill it and so lost the kingdom. Later on, after Israel had been exiled because of their gross disobedience to God and their worship of false gods, the history of the Jews is recounted in the book of Esther which includes another attack against them by the Amalekites. Haman who was directly descended from Agag, whom Saul had refused to kill, determined through his privileged position with the king of Persia, to have the Jews entirely exterminated throughout the vast Persian kingdom. Apparently, although Samuel had executed God’s judgment upon Agag, Saul’s half-hearted execution of the Amalekites had allowed a descendant of Agag to survive. There is the biblical reason why God determined to destroy the Amalekites. They were His enemy being the enemy of His people. There is a warning here. Those who choose to be God’s enemies can expect nothing but His just judgment upon them.

          Now let’s move on to the New Testament. After Christ’s crucifixion, resurrection and ascension, the church came into being during the season of Pentecost by the anointed preaching of Peter. The church and its leaders suffered much persecution from the Jews and the Gentiles, but they never retaliated. Here is an account of Paul and Silas wrongly imprisoned in the Philippian jail.

          22 Then the multitude rose up together against them; and the magistrates tore off their clothes and commanded they be beaten with rods. 23 And when they had laid many stripes on them, they threw them into prison, commanding the jailer to keep them securely. 24 Having received such a charge, he put them into the inner prison and fastened their feet in the stocks. 25 But at midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the prisoners were listening to them. 26 Suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken; and immediately all the doors were opened and everyone’s chains were loosed. 27 And the keeper of the prison, awaking from sleep and seeing the prison doors open, supposing the prisoners fled, drew his sword and was about to kill himself. 28 But Paul called with a loud voice, saying, “Do yourself no harm, for we are all here.” 29 Then he called for a light, ran in, and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household. 35 And when it was day, the magistrates sent the officers, saying, “Let those men go.” 36 So the keeper of the prison reported these words to Paul, saying, “The magistrates have sent to let you go. Now therefore depart, and go in peace.” 37 But Paul said to them, “They have beaten us openly, uncondemned Romans, and have thrown us into prison. And now do they put us out secretly? No indeed! Let them come themselves and get us out.” 38 And the officers told these words to the magistrates, and they were afraid when they heard that they were Romans. 39 Then they came and pleaded with them and brought them out, and asked them to depart from the city. 40 So they went out of the prison and entered the house of Lydia; and when they had seen the brethren, they encouraged them and departed. Acts 16:22-40

          This is how genuine believers behave in the face of persecution, they commit themselves to God. Sometimes they are miraculously rescued, other times they are martyred. There is not one instance in the NT of believers battling their enemies. On the contrary, they allow God to bring His vengeance on unbelievers who are their enemies without cause.

          The truth is all will be judged by what they have done whether good or evil. Since God is Creator and has established right and wrong through His commandments, He also is the One who determines the appropriate judgment based upon His holiness and the egregiousness of the sinful acts of sinners. If you were perfect then you would have nothing to worry about. But you aren’t are you? Nobody is. We are all sinners and we are all at enmity with God led astray by Satan.

          5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who “will render to each one according to his deeds”; 7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor and immortality; 8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness–indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; 10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God. Romans 2:5-11

          9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin. 10 As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. 12 They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one.”

          Your definition of righteousness is completely at odds with what God has declared in His Word the Bible. Indeed, you are only doing that which you can only do, oppose God and His righteousness and seek to establish you own. But yours is a false standard of good behavior and doesn’t take care of the heart of the matter which is we are all sinners led astray by our sin natures led on by the devil. If left to ourselves we can only expect condemnation and damnation.

          That is why Jesus Christ came into this world to save sinners.

          And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him. 17 Love has been perfected among us in this; that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he how fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love Him because He first loved us. 1 John 4:14-19

          15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief. 16 However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life 17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor an glory forever and ever. Amen….3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For their is one God and one
          Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time…1 Timothy 1:15-17; 2:3-6

          God’s actions are always just, righteous and true. No man can stand as His judge since He is the judge of all. He is also the Savior of all who will repent of their sin and put their faith in Him. May God bless you with salvation through faith in His Son Jesus Christ.

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        • I didn’t really bring up the good bits of the Scriptures I proved incontrovertibly that the Bible is the Word of God. You cherry picked those verses because you esteem yourself to be a judge and critic of God and His Word. You however are judged and condemned by God and His Word. You either repent and believe what the Bible says, or you go on in your sin with the expectation that God will pour out His wrath upon you for all eternity. That is it. That is the message to all, whether they be atheists, apostates or perverts, repent and believe the truth. If you don’t repent and believe then you will spend eternity suffering in hell fire, which is not what any believer wants to happen to any unbeliever. I pray that God will bring you to humble repentant faith in Christ. God bless you.

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        • Your belief in nobody/nothing which drives the existence of everything through random disorderly processes without any designed purpose giving rise to all of the order, complexity, purpose and symbiosis that we see on this planet is as sensible as believing, now that you are an adult, that the tooth fairy left you money under your pillow in exchange for your baby teeth when you were a child because your parents told you it was so. Maybe you should put away the fairy tales and look at the truth of reality. God bless you.

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        • So what do non-evolutionary atheists believe in? Punctuated equilibrium (hehehe), Martians (hahaha) or they created everything? Preposterous!

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  5. I was not giving advice; my original blog was giving views on my own and likely many others experiences in real life, and yes I did not use the actual word but believers in my opinion are delusional because I cannot see God or Satan or any proof that they have done anything.

    You say “I am going to die, and there is nothing we can do about it” and I agree we all die, however it is nothing we can prevent and it is a natural process just as any life on this planet. It is mostly down to judgement, good genetics and plenty of good luck that decides how long you live and when you die and if you are lucky enough to manage a healthy life to a good old age all power to you because life is a personal battle for all of us in one way or another and religion is just one helper that many reach for.

    You ask “what is there for us in this life?” Well I cannot really answer this because it is what you make it and is limited to what others can do for you. You may believe this is not our only life and what I say is “hogwash” but all the evidence points to death being the permanent end of life for all humans. We have since cave man days pinned our futures and hopes on superstition and gods of all descriptions and many such as yourself still do, therefore knowing this fact why do you expect to find hope of life after death with a later version god?

    I believe we have to look forwards no matter what happens. Traditional views have changed in religions, politics and in the diverseness of population, therefore laws for discrimination against gay, coloured, Asian or even stupid people is discouraged. Rightly or wrongly you can only do so much but win or lose you have done what you can, however hanging onto a passage in the bible and categorically believing it’s every word is not worth the depression, the dislike or hatred your apposing belief may bring upon you. The world will go on for another 100 years no matter what you or I believe and this is called making the best out of what you have for as long as you can.

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  6. Realistically people do change and time passes far faster than we can realise. The days of people actually believing in heaven and hell and the fear of God is not an effective tool as it used to be. I remember the days in the early 60’s when I was a 9 year old kid taken to a small local church and the preacher would cast down his loud threatening and animated sermon from a dim light in a raised pulpit where the whites of his eyes glinted as he went on about being a good Christian or spend eternity in hell, and then after scaring half the congregation to death he would get onto the more loving aspects of the scriptures.

    All I can remember now is that this was such a confusing message and my better judgement just told me that this was not reality. I understand that preaching methods may have been refined since those days, however from my experience with Christian people is if a person wants to really believe in God nothing you say or present to them will prevent this and if people are serious and honest with themselves they will find a church that will suit them even if it takes more effort.

    I do not believe in Satan and he had nothing to do with your problems, the changes you mention are nothing more than naturally driven human changes to suit their modern environment. All institutions and business models have gone through big changes over the last 4 or 5 decades and if they did not change they simply did not survive.

    It is hard for religions to accept change because their belief and faith is ingrained so much in the past. Modern life and politics does not gel well with religion as it used to, there are many more grey areas and this is due mostly to social attitudes and scientific development and this makes it difficult for the churches to retain and recruit new followers with traditional methods and ancient ideology. This situation will intensify over the next decade and consequently this will become even more difficult for religion to exist.

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    • The Bible says what it says, but you don’t believe in Satan? I wonder why you are so inclined to come here and give advice about something you don’t believe. Does it inflate your ego to lecture the poor and ignorant opiate fed masses?

      It is kind of weird. You claim to be an observer, but have you looked at the country? Can you not see what is happening to it? That is part of what led me to read the Bible. That is part of what led me to believe the Bible. There so many like you, preaching how wonderful this change is and how we have to adapt. That I have so little trouble believing Romans 1: 18-32, and that is why I pray and weep for my country.

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      • CT how could I give advice on something that does not actually exist? As your nose has been put out of joint you must obviously have a close relationship with this fantasy, from what I see a bit too close because you come across as a doom and gloom merchant.

        Your comment about the poor state of the country does not have details, however I conclude it is due to all the gay people and the many forward looking thinkers who do not align themselves with your politics or beliefs.

        Your comments also suggest you are a pessimistic because it is a sad defeated man who prays and weeps for his country. You can read your bible and prey all you want for as long as you want but it takes more than that to climb out of that dark hole and be able to see the positive side of anything.

        I don’t live in the USA but I hope you are in the minority group for the good of your country.

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        • You believe believers delusional. Yet you give “advice.” Useless advice. How can you give advice about something you do not admit exists? If you don’t believe in God, how likely is it you would notice Satan?

          Am I a doom and gloom merchant? In one respect the answer is yes. I am a frail human being. Like you and everyone else, I am going to die, and there is nothing we can do about it. We cannot outthink the problem. However, two thousand years ago, God’s Son walked among us, and He died for our sins. The Bible, that book you do not believe, documents that Good News. After death, there is hope.

          What is there for us in this life? Here we have a chance to love God and each other. Those that do find life more joyous than those who do not. Still, some refuse to hear the Good News. Some like you even preach against it, and it makes me sad to think some will listen to such hogwash.

          You mentioned “all the gay people and the many forward looking thinkers.” If anyone ever needed a demonstration of Romans 1:18-32, then they have “all the gay people and the many forward looking thinkers” to thank for repeated demonstrations of the truth in that passage. In addition to all the other repeated violations of the Constitution by Congress and a president with the unmitigated gall to say Obamacare is working, we now have a majority on the Supreme Court that believes same-sex “marriage” is a “right.” Isn’t the difference between the sexes self-evident? Doesn’t a baby old know the difference between mama and daddy, even this corrupt culture?

          Apparently, to those who deny God, what should be self-evident is not. Hence, blind to what should be self-evident, some of “all the gay people and the many forward looking thinkers” call what is good evil and what is evil good. And those blind souls are tearing apart the free country our forebears worked so hard to build. However, if you cannot find evidence of God — if you are one of ” the many forward looking thinkers,” how likely is it that you would notice the moral decline of our nation? You are just too smart for that.

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    • “from my experience with Christian people is if a person wants to really believe in God nothing you say or present to them will prevent this and if people are serious and honest with themselves they will find a church that will suit them even if it takes more effort.”

      This is very true. People who really want to know truth about the big questions in life don’t give up so easily.

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  7. Ah, good for you! That’s a righteous rant, indeed. I wish I could dispute some of what you’ve said, but I can’t. I see many of those problems too. What I think some don’t understand is that there is genuine collateral damage there, people walk away from not only the church, but from faith itself when we drop the ball. We have always dropped the ball, it is never going to be perfect, but watering down faith is to take away it’s integrity, to remove what draws people towards Christ in the first place.

    God is faithful however and steadfast and “upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” I’m leaning into that promise, that no matter how awful things appear to me, there is a method to all this madness and we already walk in victory.

    It really grieves me to watch people get fed up and walk away and I empathize there, but darn it all, they have to take some responsibility, too. We are all the “body of Christ, ” we are all responsible for His church. Rather then washing our hands of the matter and walking away, we may be the one God designated to set them all straight. 😉

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  8. I could have written this a couple of years ago except that you have done a far better job than I could have ever done at capturing the “pathetic”ness of it. I really feel your sense of injustice. People ARE very much like cattle being herded and both the cattle and rancher in this metaphor are pathetic. I, however, no longer believe in Satan and am torn between having sympathy for the herd and being frustrated by their neurotic religiosity. Rather than believing every one starts from a sinful place I think most religious people truly are really trying to discern/follow the will of God and have unfortunately checked their brains/wills at the door in the process.

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    • I guess all the mass murders, individual murders, injustices, rapes, thievery, hostilities, wars, suicides, abortions, infidelities, adulteries, tortures, mutilations, oppression, corruption, etc. are the result of poor babies not being coddled by their mothers long enough. Where does all of this evil come from? It comes from the sinful inclinations of fallen humanity led astray by the devil.

      Maybe you don’t believe in Satan, but I can tell you that there are those who know that he exists because they have met him and serve him. Have you ever heard of satanists? Why don’t you go rail on their blogs? What you have to say is just subterfuge.

      If you throw out the Scriptures, deny what God has said, you cannot make sense of this world and so you are led on by your own strange neuroses that fail to deal with reality. This will inevitably lead you to believe in and follow the Antichrist, who is empowered by the devil, when he comes on the scene. You and the world will cry peace, peace as you all follow him, when there is no peace, and in the end God will bring His judgment upon this world which rejects His grace offered to sinners through faith in His Son Jesus Christ.

      Scientific advancements make no impact upon the nature of man, they just give greater sophistication to man’s expression of his sinful desires. No, it is the gospel of Jesus Christ that is the only hope of mankind, and it is a sorrowful thing that in this apostate age there are so few who are faithfully proclaiming His glorious message of reconciliation for sinners to God through faith in Him and belief that He died for their sins and rose again so they can have eternal life. God bless us.

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      • Hi Eliza,

        Wow. Okay, where do I start?

        Well, first of all I have no desire to “rail” on this blog or any other. The purpose for writing what I did was to share my opinion while at the same time trying to find a connection point — a point of agreement.

        The fact that Satanists exist does not necessarily mean that Satan exists so I find that a poor argument. I have no desire to visit Satanist blogs because I have absolutely nothing in common with them nor are they representing anything that I find valuable or good.

        What I have to say is just “subterfuge?” Really? So you are saying that because I don’t believe in Satan everything that comes out my mouth are cunning, deceitful lies? If you are trying to make a convincing argument your condescending attack of my character is the wrong approach.

        Additionally to calling what I say subterfuge you also accuse me of being neurotic and delusional. If you knew me than I’d say fine, make a judgement but you are making this judgment solely based on my statement that I no longer believe in Satan. You jump to so many conclusions and then go on your own “rail” all in defense of the Gospel. Again, horrible, horrible approach.

        Your whole argument is full of logical fallacies except your first paragraph which was thought provoking. While I don’t claim to know the answer for evil (and no “the Devil made me do it” is not a reasonable explanation for me) I will say that it is very obvious that people are primarily self-interested which explains a lot about why people do bad things.

        There is the biological imperative to survive and there is also a lot of complex individual and social psychology at work. I really believe anyone is capable of anything given the right circumstances.

        If you’d like to discuss any of this without a diatribe then I’m game, if not I’m not interested.

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        • Hi Quix

          eliza said this:

          —-Scientific advancements make no impact upon the nature of man, they just give greater sophistication to man’s expression of his sinful desires.—

          This is so good and true, and the ramifications are staggering. It is exactly the technology that has become the golden calf, just look at any kid @ the age of three. They can’t spell a word, but are experts with ‘devices,’ and so scripture being perfect: ‘we are not ignorant of the enemies devices…………..’

          No one is discounting tech stuff, but its hard to ignore the fact that buttons and beeps do not change a heart. As knowledge increase, mans yen for God decreases. This is why the scriptures are so relevant, moreso today.

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        • I can agree to this part: “Scientific advancements make no impact upon the nature of man”

          I also agree that we should be very cautious when developing and using technology as we need to ask ourselves what technology is turning us (as humans) into.

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